*LTD*
Apr 29, 06:08 AM
That can be viewed another way. Apple is too cheap to bother risking anything that is not a sure bet.
Wrong.
The exact OPPOSITE is true.
Apple takes some serious risks. How else do they move the entire industry in new directions?
iPhone. iPad. Both massive risks. Both were dismissed by major industry players. The iPad especially was dismissed by a lot of folks on MR. Vertical business model in an industry where everyone in in a race to the bottom and where some version of Windows dominates on computers. Big risk. Completely ditching OS 9 overnight and moving to OS X. Big risk as well. Apple is really the only one on the block that bothers to try new things.
Here's some claim chowder. Mmmm, deeeelish!
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9197388&postcount=166
Am I the only one who thinks Acer is right and they are not worried nor expect the iPad to do little to no damage to their netbook market.
The iPad is basicly nothing more then a iPod touch with a bigger screen. Yes the bigger screen offers some extras stuff but still you suffer the same limitition of the iPhone/iPod Touch OS and are trapped in apple's sand box.
The iPad is not going to replace a traveling computer because it is just way to limited. It has piss poor way of connecting to USB/SD card. You are still required to carry a dedicated keyboard if you want to get much work done that way and so on.
The Netbook on the other had is a great for business travelers. It is a full flege computer. Yeah it has a small screen but it is the same size a the iPad and a full size keyboard and more powerful OS.
iPad is a consumer level devices. Netbook is a bussiness/Enterprise level device. That is 2 very different markets. The Netbook is not designed to replace a deticated desktop/Main laptop neither is the iPad. Netbooks are designed to make traveling with a computer a hell of a lot nicer.
Lets compare the 2.
Checking Email-- I give that to the iPad.
Responding to Email - Netbook due to keyboard.
Over all email - Netbook
Surfing the internet - Netbook due to flash support
Reading the news - iPad.
Reading books - iPad.
Getting real work done (word documents excel sheets ect.) -- Netbook.
iPad - Consumer device something apple has proven it is damn good at.
Netbook --Enterprise/ Bussiness device -- Something apple has shown time and time again it has craptactor support and does not really even bother making stuff to into that market.
So what happened? This "oversized iPod Touch" did this:
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/microsoft-profits-top-expectations-xbox-office-trump-pc-slump
In its quarterly filing, Microsoft indicated that the consumer PC market was the primary culprit for the decline � pointing in particular to a 40 percent decline in netbook sales in the consumer market. That�s more evidence of the iPad�s impact on the market. Many consumers are opting for the Apple slate rather than Windows-based netbooks to fill the gap between the PC and the phone.
40% decline in netbooks, huh?
Remember seeing articles like these a while back?
David Carnoy, February 2009: "Why Apple Must Do a Netbook Now"
Preston Gralla, March 2009: "Why Apple Will Have to Release a Netbook"
Charles Moore, March 2010: "Apple Still Needs a Sub-$700 Conventional Notebook"
Apple TOOK A RISK and did the iPad instead. And look what happened.
Cheap netbook junk is circling the drain and major players are suddenly in the tablet game full-tilt. AFTER Apple laid the groundwork. Apple's big risks pay off. Whether Apple thinks they're a "sure thing" is a different story. They're likely pretty confident in what they produce because they know better than everyone else, whether it's the other major industry players, pundits, etc.
MS' backbone is their universal licensing racket. Winblows on PCs. No need to innovate. Blame netbook decline. Blame a "market reset." Blame your mom. But never blame your aging cash cow whose udders are now almost completely dry. MS is NOT a risk-taker. Especially in the enterprise. Especially in operating systems. Especially by copying Apple 3 years late ALMOST EVERY TIME. Let Apple take the risks, and then Zune it! Or release a smartphone no one really gives a damn about.
Please, don't go talking about risks. Because the only one to have any friggin' shred of creativity in the industry and the power to mass produce the fruits of it is Apple. Their moves for the past decade have been nothing less than complete and total daring. They often come out of left field with products that no one initially understands, that are laughingly dismissed by other major players (Ballmer on the iPhone, nearly everyone on the iPod), but that we end up using and everyone else ends up copying shortly after. Part of the reason an industry player that does the exact opposite of the other major players is about to surpass Exxon Mobil as the most valuable company on the planet.
Wrong.
The exact OPPOSITE is true.
Apple takes some serious risks. How else do they move the entire industry in new directions?
iPhone. iPad. Both massive risks. Both were dismissed by major industry players. The iPad especially was dismissed by a lot of folks on MR. Vertical business model in an industry where everyone in in a race to the bottom and where some version of Windows dominates on computers. Big risk. Completely ditching OS 9 overnight and moving to OS X. Big risk as well. Apple is really the only one on the block that bothers to try new things.
Here's some claim chowder. Mmmm, deeeelish!
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9197388&postcount=166
Am I the only one who thinks Acer is right and they are not worried nor expect the iPad to do little to no damage to their netbook market.
The iPad is basicly nothing more then a iPod touch with a bigger screen. Yes the bigger screen offers some extras stuff but still you suffer the same limitition of the iPhone/iPod Touch OS and are trapped in apple's sand box.
The iPad is not going to replace a traveling computer because it is just way to limited. It has piss poor way of connecting to USB/SD card. You are still required to carry a dedicated keyboard if you want to get much work done that way and so on.
The Netbook on the other had is a great for business travelers. It is a full flege computer. Yeah it has a small screen but it is the same size a the iPad and a full size keyboard and more powerful OS.
iPad is a consumer level devices. Netbook is a bussiness/Enterprise level device. That is 2 very different markets. The Netbook is not designed to replace a deticated desktop/Main laptop neither is the iPad. Netbooks are designed to make traveling with a computer a hell of a lot nicer.
Lets compare the 2.
Checking Email-- I give that to the iPad.
Responding to Email - Netbook due to keyboard.
Over all email - Netbook
Surfing the internet - Netbook due to flash support
Reading the news - iPad.
Reading books - iPad.
Getting real work done (word documents excel sheets ect.) -- Netbook.
iPad - Consumer device something apple has proven it is damn good at.
Netbook --Enterprise/ Bussiness device -- Something apple has shown time and time again it has craptactor support and does not really even bother making stuff to into that market.
So what happened? This "oversized iPod Touch" did this:
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/microsoft-profits-top-expectations-xbox-office-trump-pc-slump
In its quarterly filing, Microsoft indicated that the consumer PC market was the primary culprit for the decline � pointing in particular to a 40 percent decline in netbook sales in the consumer market. That�s more evidence of the iPad�s impact on the market. Many consumers are opting for the Apple slate rather than Windows-based netbooks to fill the gap between the PC and the phone.
40% decline in netbooks, huh?
Remember seeing articles like these a while back?
David Carnoy, February 2009: "Why Apple Must Do a Netbook Now"
Preston Gralla, March 2009: "Why Apple Will Have to Release a Netbook"
Charles Moore, March 2010: "Apple Still Needs a Sub-$700 Conventional Notebook"
Apple TOOK A RISK and did the iPad instead. And look what happened.
Cheap netbook junk is circling the drain and major players are suddenly in the tablet game full-tilt. AFTER Apple laid the groundwork. Apple's big risks pay off. Whether Apple thinks they're a "sure thing" is a different story. They're likely pretty confident in what they produce because they know better than everyone else, whether it's the other major industry players, pundits, etc.
MS' backbone is their universal licensing racket. Winblows on PCs. No need to innovate. Blame netbook decline. Blame a "market reset." Blame your mom. But never blame your aging cash cow whose udders are now almost completely dry. MS is NOT a risk-taker. Especially in the enterprise. Especially in operating systems. Especially by copying Apple 3 years late ALMOST EVERY TIME. Let Apple take the risks, and then Zune it! Or release a smartphone no one really gives a damn about.
Please, don't go talking about risks. Because the only one to have any friggin' shred of creativity in the industry and the power to mass produce the fruits of it is Apple. Their moves for the past decade have been nothing less than complete and total daring. They often come out of left field with products that no one initially understands, that are laughingly dismissed by other major players (Ballmer on the iPhone, nearly everyone on the iPod), but that we end up using and everyone else ends up copying shortly after. Part of the reason an industry player that does the exact opposite of the other major players is about to surpass Exxon Mobil as the most valuable company on the planet.
PstLMac
May 3, 10:31 AM
I bought my 1st iMAC 27" last year and I'm extremely happy with it!
I have no need for a second monitor since it's so wide.
So besides the dual external display on the 2011 what else...?
Are we missing anything else from the reported update notes???
Thunderbolt seems cool, but my iMAC is pretty fast as is. I guess I was wondering if the new update was going to make me jealous...NOT.
Maybe next refresh,,,;)
I have no need for a second monitor since it's so wide.
So besides the dual external display on the 2011 what else...?
Are we missing anything else from the reported update notes???
Thunderbolt seems cool, but my iMAC is pretty fast as is. I guess I was wondering if the new update was going to make me jealous...NOT.
Maybe next refresh,,,;)
Eraserhead
Nov 13, 05:03 PM
But it's been more than one day. Joe Hewitt resigned Wednesday (http://twitter.com/joehewitt/status/5631765190).
Regardless its still within a short period.
Regardless its still within a short period.
Spagolli94
Sep 12, 03:46 PM
i'm sorry but the 30G iPod has a stupid price. If someone is that tight and has to get an iPod, they would probably buy used.
I will by the 30GB and am anything but tight. Why? Because I only have 15GB of music and have been adding music at a rate of about 1GB per year. I have no need to watch movies or look at photos on my iPod. If I'm traveling, I have a PowerBook on the plane with me. My iPod is used in the car and the gym, that's it.
That said, both the 30GB and 80GB have more than enough storage. So, I will make my decision based on physical dimensions - at the gym a smaller iPod is a big plus. The fact that the 30GB is cheaper is just icing on the cake. For my needs, I would have bought the 30GB, even it were the same price... even it the 30GB were more.
I agree with you though. If you currently have or anticipate needing over 30GB of space, the 80GB is a MUCH better value when it comes to GB per dollar.
I will by the 30GB and am anything but tight. Why? Because I only have 15GB of music and have been adding music at a rate of about 1GB per year. I have no need to watch movies or look at photos on my iPod. If I'm traveling, I have a PowerBook on the plane with me. My iPod is used in the car and the gym, that's it.
That said, both the 30GB and 80GB have more than enough storage. So, I will make my decision based on physical dimensions - at the gym a smaller iPod is a big plus. The fact that the 30GB is cheaper is just icing on the cake. For my needs, I would have bought the 30GB, even it were the same price... even it the 30GB were more.
I agree with you though. If you currently have or anticipate needing over 30GB of space, the 80GB is a MUCH better value when it comes to GB per dollar.
HecubusPro
Aug 28, 06:30 PM
Not sure if this could be related, but we just tried to order 25 custom macbook pros and were told that such an order could not be carried out at this time. Perhaps something is going to be changing soon? (or maybe they're just out of some memory or something).
A very similar thing was reported earlier last week with a guy who wanted to purchase a whole slew of Mac Mini's.
I needed to order another bunch to use as Mac mini servers (and to add to my great wall of Apple boxes) but I was told by the reseller (name withdrawn so they don�t get in trouble) that they can�t take big orders (again), but after Labor Day they�d be able to ship plenty of the new model.
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060824183848.shtml
I would think that's a very good indication that Apple is getting ready to begin selling the C2D MBP's. :D
A very similar thing was reported earlier last week with a guy who wanted to purchase a whole slew of Mac Mini's.
I needed to order another bunch to use as Mac mini servers (and to add to my great wall of Apple boxes) but I was told by the reseller (name withdrawn so they don�t get in trouble) that they can�t take big orders (again), but after Labor Day they�d be able to ship plenty of the new model.
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060824183848.shtml
I would think that's a very good indication that Apple is getting ready to begin selling the C2D MBP's. :D
tbobmccoy
Apr 14, 07:03 PM
They wouldn't have to add more hardware. USB3.0 is backwards compatible with 2.0. They would only have to disable 3.0 protocols somehow or artificially speed limit it to 2.0 speeds. I wouldn't put it past them. I KNOW if they got Blu-Ray drives somehow included with their hardware (i.e. only thing available), they would STILL not support it except in DVD/CD mode. Apple will do what they think is best for them NO MATTER WHAT. They don't give a flying rat's hind end about what the consumer wants. Steve thinks he knows better than anyone and he has a whole army of groupies telling him he's right so how on earth could he ever imagine otherwise?
I think this is a bit paranoid. Blu-ray just isn't that great of a tech for Apple to justify the increased cost of adding it to the MacBook Pro. Yes, there is some bias due to their DLC, but I doubt that's the ONLY reason blu-ray isn't available. Plus, I'd rather go without a drive period on my next MacBook. Give me the space savings, extra battery life, etc and let me have a thunderbolt drive, since I never use the drive outside of... installing software, and even that's rare these days.
I think this is a bit paranoid. Blu-ray just isn't that great of a tech for Apple to justify the increased cost of adding it to the MacBook Pro. Yes, there is some bias due to their DLC, but I doubt that's the ONLY reason blu-ray isn't available. Plus, I'd rather go without a drive period on my next MacBook. Give me the space savings, extra battery life, etc and let me have a thunderbolt drive, since I never use the drive outside of... installing software, and even that's rare these days.
Squonk
Sep 12, 02:59 PM
In the past, when Apple has released new models, on the "deals" page, they would sell off the old *new boxed* stock for a little less than the new models. Sometimes these were a great deal, other times, not so much. Anyway, with the iMac and Mac Mini updates last week and the iPod updates today, it appears that there is no "old stock" products for sale from Apple. I was hoping to pick up the 5G/60GB to replace my 4G/60GB as I'd now like the bigger screen. Yes, I am looking for a deal... Or how about a 1G/1G shuffle for $49???
Does anyone know how Apple is getting rid of the old?
Does anyone know how Apple is getting rid of the old?
MacinDoc
Sep 14, 12:21 PM
But since everyone's discussing MBP's, I guess it fits.
I know the Merom chip is compatible with the current boards in the CD MBP, but I've never heard anyone actually say that a CD MBP can be upgraded by simply dropping in a Merom chip. Will this be possible?
Not unless you are good with soldering and don't mind voiding your warranty - the CD chip is soldered onto the motherboard. Also, a firmware update would be required, and may not be available.
I know the Merom chip is compatible with the current boards in the CD MBP, but I've never heard anyone actually say that a CD MBP can be upgraded by simply dropping in a Merom chip. Will this be possible?
Not unless you are good with soldering and don't mind voiding your warranty - the CD chip is soldered onto the motherboard. Also, a firmware update would be required, and may not be available.
jettredmont
Aug 24, 01:08 AM
[Will MS be sued too?]
If it's UI infringes on the patentt, sure. If it doesn't, why sue?
Given that the patent is on metadata-based navigation, being able to slice the music files [on a portable player] by artists, albums, and playlists, do you really have an inkling of a suspicion that Microsoft's Zune player will not infringe?
I'll give MS the benefit here for the moment, but unless they've come up with a radically new way of interacting with your music that actually works, they'll either license/infringe on Creative's patent, or they'll produce a player no one knows how to use.
IMHO, it is pretty much a certainty that Zune will infringe on Creative's patent until Microsoft comes to licensing terms, just like just about every other player out there right now that manages more than a hundred megs of music does. The most likely alternative is a "flat" folder-based navigation system, which will pretty much equate directly to resounding market failure, and as stupid as MS makes us believe they are at times, they aren't that stupid!
If it's UI infringes on the patentt, sure. If it doesn't, why sue?
Given that the patent is on metadata-based navigation, being able to slice the music files [on a portable player] by artists, albums, and playlists, do you really have an inkling of a suspicion that Microsoft's Zune player will not infringe?
I'll give MS the benefit here for the moment, but unless they've come up with a radically new way of interacting with your music that actually works, they'll either license/infringe on Creative's patent, or they'll produce a player no one knows how to use.
IMHO, it is pretty much a certainty that Zune will infringe on Creative's patent until Microsoft comes to licensing terms, just like just about every other player out there right now that manages more than a hundred megs of music does. The most likely alternative is a "flat" folder-based navigation system, which will pretty much equate directly to resounding market failure, and as stupid as MS makes us believe they are at times, they aren't that stupid!
EricNau
Sep 19, 11:12 PM
I downloaded 1 movie (FlightPlan) to test the system out, but I won't be buying anymore until it is at least DVD quality (640 x 272 isn't close enough).
It's bad enough buying a movie without a case, hardcopy, or any bonus features, but to top it off, it isn't even DVD quality... and for that I pay $10?
Why is Apple always cutting corners? They get so close to great things, but not close enough.
It's bad enough buying a movie without a case, hardcopy, or any bonus features, but to top it off, it isn't even DVD quality... and for that I pay $10?
Why is Apple always cutting corners? They get so close to great things, but not close enough.
jason221
Apr 25, 05:28 PM
I wish they would release it before September 28... I'd rather wait for the new design but college starts this fall so that's not an option. Oh well.
JAT
Oct 27, 03:18 PM
...Uh, Internet law 2001-B... because he's the international scapegoat of this decade. He must be blamed for all unfortunate and tragic events, no matter when, where, how or why they occured. Including and not limited to natural disasters, "acts of God", actions by foreign powers and anything else that blame could possibly (no matter how illogically) be assigned to. Because, dammit, if there were anyone else sitting in that oval office, the world would have progressed into a virtual utopia by now. :rolleyes:
My predictions for the next presidency: A variation of the same old ****, completely different guy.
LOL!
My predictions for the next presidency: A variation of the same old ****, completely different guy.
LOL!
kresh
Aug 29, 02:01 AM
Apple always claims that Macs are better than PCs. Dell and HP aren't making those same claims. I've never heard either company publicly dump on Apple. Apple dumps on them on TV all the time.
So Michael Dell publicly stating that Steve Jobs should close the doors and return the money to the investors is not dumping?
And which tv ad is the one where Apple is dumping on Dell or HP? I must have missed that one, I would like to see it too!
So Michael Dell publicly stating that Steve Jobs should close the doors and return the money to the investors is not dumping?
And which tv ad is the one where Apple is dumping on Dell or HP? I must have missed that one, I would like to see it too!
to1986
Apr 4, 11:51 AM
I hope this was in self defence. There is no other reason for him shooting the guy in the head. I hope he has an excuse, otherwise he may find himself in prison for a long time.
Funkymonk
Apr 28, 05:30 PM
Microsoft is DEAD. And so is Google.
GO APPLE!
why would you want that?:confused:
GO APPLE!
why would you want that?:confused:
DavidLeblond
Aug 28, 01:14 PM
Apple would not leave "secret" massive shipments lying around unsold.
Yeah, Apple would NEVER do THAT. :rolleyes:
Yeah, Apple would NEVER do THAT. :rolleyes:
Tommyg117
Aug 31, 07:18 PM
great news on the movie store and on the core 2 duo laptops! Can't wait, better break out the paycheck!
ChazUK
Apr 22, 02:51 AM
It's not really an original idea. Lala was doing this last year, until Apple bought them and shut them down.
Oh, I never knew much about lala so thanks.
Oh, I never knew much about lala so thanks.
EagerDragon
Sep 5, 08:26 PM
Darn it, 6 more days to go.
KnightWRX
Apr 30, 05:00 PM
I agree 100% with the sentiment of what you're saying -- I think the matte vs. gloss thing is WAAAAY overblown, but just for argument's sake, remember that CRT have a curved front screen, not a flat sheet of glass. That's going to diffuse a lot of external light just by the nature of the design.
Sure, maybe, but I remember not being able to even see what was on glass tube CRT monitor when the shades were open. Heck, TVs in summer ? :eek: While there may be virtues to the matte screens, I doubt it's as big an issue as some people make it out to be.
Sure, maybe, but I remember not being able to even see what was on glass tube CRT monitor when the shades were open. Heck, TVs in summer ? :eek: While there may be virtues to the matte screens, I doubt it's as big an issue as some people make it out to be.
~Shard~
Sep 13, 10:34 PM
I'm thinking more along the lines of a really thin flip phone. The ipod functionality would be on the outside of the flip (ie click wheel) and the keypad would be on the inside of the flip. Close the flip and the exposed LCD shows a normal ipod screen. Open the flp and the screen shows the phone interface.
It would have to be really thin, but I like it! :cool:
It would have to be really thin, but I like it! :cool:
Mac Fly (film)
Sep 15, 09:50 PM
I don't know if I can wait until MacWorld:(
Then read my comment, it's above yours.
Then read my comment, it's above yours.
Intarweb
Apr 20, 11:06 AM
All I've seen is one paragraph claiming that. Until someone shows data from when location services was turned off it's hard to run with it.
Applogist? Jesus, that's such a sad bastardization of words. I'm trying to apply reasoning to this and have people understand that they've likely agreed to something because they don't read the ToS or SLA.
I'm sorry it was harsh to call you and appologist. From your posting you're not like the typical robot running around here.
Mine has always been off. When I get home I'll try the program and will have first had knowledge of if it does or doesn't track with it switched off.
Applogist? Jesus, that's such a sad bastardization of words. I'm trying to apply reasoning to this and have people understand that they've likely agreed to something because they don't read the ToS or SLA.
I'm sorry it was harsh to call you and appologist. From your posting you're not like the typical robot running around here.
Mine has always been off. When I get home I'll try the program and will have first had knowledge of if it does or doesn't track with it switched off.
Stridder44
Mar 23, 07:14 PM
That is ridiculous. Even if Apple pulls the app, They are not going to disappear. There is always Cydia.
Yes, because everyone jailbreaks their phone. :rolleyes: Even if the checkpoints are made publicly available by the police themselves, people usually wouldn't bother checking. An app makes that a great deal more convenient to check.
Typical, guilty until proven innocent, isn't that always the way.
How the hell is this anything like that? No one here is being accused of being drunk driver. Stop acting like a damn victim.
You should tell that to my son. Oh wait, you can't, he was murdered someone like you.
My deepest condolences, but I think (God I hope) he was joking.
Yes, because everyone jailbreaks their phone. :rolleyes: Even if the checkpoints are made publicly available by the police themselves, people usually wouldn't bother checking. An app makes that a great deal more convenient to check.
Typical, guilty until proven innocent, isn't that always the way.
How the hell is this anything like that? No one here is being accused of being drunk driver. Stop acting like a damn victim.
You should tell that to my son. Oh wait, you can't, he was murdered someone like you.
My deepest condolences, but I think (God I hope) he was joking.